On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:22:24 -0500 Ahn, Chang said: >That decision is not up to me. Our Systems Staff are currently looking into >upgrading ListServ; however, the exact time frame for this upgrade has not >been determined. But it doesn't look promising. This is MAIL.ABANET.ORG, correct? If so you're already running 1.8d. An upgrade to the 2000b level set is not only simple, it makes extremely good security sense, as noted on this list in our security advisory just a couple of weeks ago. Plus it's free since you already have 1.8d. Perhaps you should show them this: http://www.lsoft.com/news/default.asp?item=advisory1 Nathan