> Aggh, . Winship, as I think was clear from my msg, my list *does* have I know what you said. However, if LISTSERV says you don't have any concealed subscribers you don't have any. That is why I said do the REV, check what it says as to the number of CONCEALED subscribers; if it says 0 then you do not have any. Tacking on [concealed] at the end of the "name" does not make the subscription CONCEALED any more than tacking digest onto the "name" sets the person to DIGESTS. You cannot determine who is or is not CONCEAL with a REV, only the *number* of them, if any. That is why I ignored what you said about identifying CONCEALed subscribers with a REV; REV does not show the subscription status. Douglas