Dear Douglas and LSTOWN Folks, If I understand what Douglas is saying, it is well motivated and at least partially incorrect: >You cannot determine who is or is not CONCEAL with a REV, >only the *number* of them, if any. That is why I ignored what >you said about identifying CONCEALed subscribers with a REV; >REV does not show the subscription status. Not So As Francoise Becker <[log in to unmask]> already mentioned in this thread, >Note that if you use the (ALL qualifier on your REVIEW command, >then you will see all subscribers, even the CONCEALed ones. \...\ >For example: >REVIEW listname (ALL NOH > >It even points out which ones are concealed. > >If you want to get ONLY the addresses that are concealed, you >have to use the QUERY command as has already been pointed >out. The results of REVIEW (ALL NOH command look ordinary, except that all concealed members show up like this: ********@AOL.COM Firstname J Lastname [concealed] As Douglas notes, the total number of concealed members is also shown at the end of the REVIEW results: * Total number of "concealed" subscribers: 1 * Total number of users subscribed to the list: 253 * Total number of countries represented: 16 How Come They Aren't Concealed? Of course, if the subscriber uses "concealed" or even "[concealed]" as their registered name with LISTSERV, that, in-and-of-itself will not make that account concealed. (right?) LISTSERV doesn't seem to mind having "[concealed]" at the end of a registered name" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 03:02:08 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at St. John's University (1.8d)" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: You are now subscribed to the THYROID list To: "Firstname Lastname [Concealed]" <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: [log in to unmask] and > q thyroid Subscription options for "Firstname Lastname [Concealed]" <[log in to unmask]>, list THYROID: MAIL You are sent individual postings as they are received FULLHDR Full (normal) mail headers REPRO You receive a copy of your own postings ACK Short e-mail acknowledgement of successfully processed postings REVIEW Your postings are forwarded to the list owner for approval Subscription date: 4 Sep 2000 I hope this helps (IHTH). Pax, Ballew Kinnaman <[log in to unmask]> 206/463-2322 Discussion list owner: Allergy, Arthritis, PCHealth, Rubber, Thyroid Thyroid Discussion Group http://www.Emissary.Net/thyroid/index.html