Interesting, I have been intending to write about this topic, after discussing it to no avail with the list manager at my host. I seem to recall that q <listname> with conceal for *@* _used_ to work for my list, but lately it returns > q zamir-chat-list with conceal for *@* There is no subscription for *@* in the ZAMIR-CHAT-LIST list with the options CONCEAL. I have no problem identifying hidden members - I use REV for that - but I'm curious why the CONCEAL ...FOR *@* doesn't work as described in the manuals. LISTSERV at my host is ver. 1.8d 2000b. -- ed --- Ed Agro <[log in to unmask]> http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/zamir-chat-list.html