Let me attempt closure on this one. Douglas, you've really got me wrong. Your deductions about what I do on my lists is totally incorrect and your assumptions about my supposed anger about REV list by country are totally wide of the mark. But what is sillier, I tell myself, than arguing with an unknown person on the internet about an unimportant misunderstanding. I've had a very satisfactory answer from LSOFT, so let me just say to you, personally: a merry Christmas and a happy New Year and let LSTOWN get back to discussing technical matters. Dennis ======= Dennis Newson formerly University of Osnabrueck Germany List Manager CETEFL-L Moderator of various other EFL lists www.dennisnewson.de