Sigh. Valdis, you are correct as usual - your points about most other autoresponders are well taken. When I read links like the one you sent, I just want to leave the profession & sell tomatoes by the roadside. Thanks for the info. Doug Doug Wheeler Sr. Technical Analyst - Information Resources Neenah Technical Center Georgia-Pacific Corporation email : mailto:[log in to unmask] voice : 920.729.8178 fax : 920.729.8164 -----Original Message----- From: Valdis Kletnieks [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:09 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: ListServ 1.8d help On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:47:13 EST, "Wheeler, Doug (NTC)" <[log in to unmask]> said: > In a large organization, much the email traffic is inter-office not > internet. When a notice is given to or request made of an individual, > it is helpful to know that they are out of the office and not just However, most OTHER autoresponders understood how *not* to reply to mailing lists well over a decade ago (either by examining the Return-Path: for 'owner-' or '-request', or not replying if your address wasn't in the To: or cc: explicitly - both methods work fairly well). Whether for personal use or a small or large organization, an auto-away reply to *direct* email is usually reasonable. But in all three cases, a reply to *list* mail is usually UNreasonable. And everybody except one vendor realized that years ago. > It also wouldn't hurt if MS would actually give us more robust secure > software with useful features. Damn. Can I have the phone number of your supplier? I'm running REALLY low on those really cool pharmeceuticals. ;) See http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q293/8/34.ASP if you want to be depressed. Yes, this has Listserv impact - it means we'll be seeing more Goner and SirCam and the like for a LONG time. -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech