>The point is, Pete lets his subscribers know up front what is expected and >friendly behavior for participation on his list. He then not only has >every right --and every subscriber knows this >beforehand-- to assert control, but to SET abusers of the list's policy to >NOPOST if they do not wish to conform. NOMAIL works. Peter R I run a very tight topics list and instituted various rules, A. to respect my server's desire that we not waste archive space, B. to make the digest clean and clear for readers and 3. to ensure that people respect each other. All new members are under review and experienced members are set back to review for infringements. When they find themselves on review they know they have posted incorrectly and the onus is on them to find the fault and not do it again if they wish to get off review and remain off. This is all made clear in the 'your subscriptions was successful -- welcome' message along with consequences of arguing or abusing me. I make it clear the list is a gift not a right and that staying subscribed is a contract which includes rules they have agreed to. I offer support from helper list members to teach people how to use their email program, to understand the guidelines and one on one support for following the treatment the list is for. If someone abuses me or another member, depending on how bad it is I either request an apology or remove them without notice. It is my view that people have to take responsibility as I'm not here to work as hard as I do without them making some effort for the good of all as well. It's a personal viewpoint that is not always popular I know............Tesa