On Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:39:32, Lydia Fish wrote: > I prefer not to have concealed members on my list and right now I have four. > The command "set vwar-l noconceal for *.*" doesn't work. > > Does anyone have suggestions as to what I should do? Rich has a good answer. For the counter "answer" I manage many lists that conceals everyone via the list definition keyword: REVIEW= OWNER I began using that years ago when SPAM was little more than spiced pork and meat. Often I use the same on local lists. If someone needs to know who is subscribed, I'll often ask "why?" /Pete