I still don't understand WHY this particular number, which as several have mentioned bears little resemblance to how many people actually see the content, is so extremely important to you, as contrasted with a simple daily summary like "as of noon today there were x subscribers" to one or another list? There is one other idea that may, or may not, be helpful to you - if the subscriber who submits a message for distribution has the ACK property set in their subscription options, they do receive an automatic email from the server giving the count of recipients it was sent to. Offhand I don't know if this count is "all subscribers" or "all non-digest/non-index subscribers" or "all not-nomail subscribers" or some variation of these - perhaps LSoft will step in here and clarify the point. >>> [log in to unmask] 06/25/03 07:55AM >>> As stated in my earlier message, I only need to know the distribution count, not recipients. Our mandate states that we must have electronic mail lists for new information posted to our website. One requirement is to track (among other things) the subscribers the message was sent to. This can easily be found in the log or admin panels but I just wanted a quick way to get the info and throw it into my database. I am going to use the: REV listname NOH SH command in a separate email to get the numbers quickly. >On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:07:09 EDT, Kevin Parris <[log in to unmask]> said: > >> But for curiosity, would you mind elaborating on just what the actual >> value is supposed to be, of knowing how many recipients there were for >> any particular list distribution?