On many systems, a maximum message size can be defined. I beleive Hotmail is about 1.5 MB. (I had a 1.8MB msg fail to hotmail) At work, we limit all messages to 10MB *MAX*, anything over 5MB is forced to low priority. --- Inanimate objects rock with glee as they conspire to baffle me. - Ogden Nash William Brown Email/Internet Services Erie 1 BOCES (716)821-7285 "Peter C.S. Adams" <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: LISTSERV list owners' forum <[log in to unmask]> 07/24/2003 06:25 PM Please respond to LISTSERV list owners' forum <[log in to unmask]> To [log in to unmask] cc Subject [LSTOWN-L] Help with DSN 5.2.3 I am confused by DSN code 5.2.3. According to RFC 1893, this code indicates: A per-mailbox administrative message length limit has been exceeded. This status code should be used when the per-mailbox message length limit is less than the general system limit. This code should be used as a permanent failure. I get a lot of these from Hotmail and MSN and don't know how to deal with them based on the above. What do they mean? The account is over quota (which should be 5.2.2)? The account is disabled (which should be 5.2.1)? WTF do they mean by "the per-mailbox message length limit is less than the general system limit"?? Thanks, peter -- Peter C.S. Adams <[log in to unmask]> co-owner, PAGEMAKR mailing list <http://www.makingpages.org/> "Common courtesy is not so common." -- apologies to Voltaire