On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Paul Russell wrote: > Francoise Becker wrote: > > > It's all semantics. It doesn't matter what anyone calls it. The In general, I do think it matters very much "what a thing is called", especially when the name uses words that convey a commonly shared meaning because... > I agree that we need to use terminology that everyone understands, and that > "confirmed opt-in", as currently defined, is insufficient. there is no "confirmation" in "confirmed opt-in" with Subscription= Open. So, not only is it insufficient, it is terribly misleading and I think you know that already. It isn't really a semantic argument at all yet, but I can and do appreciate why your response would be couched in those terms. Thanks for taking the time to explain to us where it came from. --Trish Trish Forrest, Queen's University