(To catch up, Tim and I have been exchanging some emails. His date field will read something like "Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:34:35 -0000 GMT" When he sends to a Listserv list from the blackberry, the date fields get mangled, and come out as 00:00:00. We've got a bunch of folks on blackberrys at my job, and I told Tim I'd get one of them to experiment with me a bit.) I just got my first message from my co-workers blackberry. The date field reads "Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:33:34 -0400" No extraneous time zone info. I'm waiting for his message to my test list. -- David Phillips Molon Labe ! 35° 46' N , 78° 48'W Lose Not A Minute!