Well if you would had read the flow of this conversation, I said that 1 millions of email was a example and a worst case scenario and I agreed with you when you said "What the Hell do they have to say that 1 million people want to hear?", we never will send millions of email per day. And from my experience I often saw form where you can sign up in a list like Swiss Chalet for example, you sign up they send you a email right after to tell you thx you for registering, so I guess they are spamming Or not legist Because they never ask me to confirm? Or like futurshop when you sign up to receive a email with they special of the month, I never had a email from them to ask me to confirm. And you can tell your *koff* *koff* "friends" that nothing is illegal in the project I'm working on or purpose , I'm sorry if my question sound like I'm a spammer wannabe but that's not my intention, I'm just trying to a good job and I need to know and understand these stuff because it's my first job as a programmer and I'm new whit that kind of stuff so my question can sound "Weird" sometime. But I can understand your suspicion, they are so many spammers these day it's horrible but like I said I'm new with this so I want to do stuff to right way. ;) -----Original Message----- From: LISTSERV site administrators' forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bill Brown Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:01 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Bounced Email "LISTSERV site administrators' forum" <[log in to unmask]> wrote on 03/29/2006 12:19:48 PM: > Ok, but we don't use "Subscribe = ,confirm, because first of all the emails > come from a website from example and stored in a database, I feed the email > structure , email list to listserv so the people who is subscribing to our > list don't really have to confirm they subscribed but they can unsubscribed > anytime thought with another system. Also on the website we can always do a > Regex validation who verify is the email address structure is valid but > that's a front line validation only and it's have nothing to do with bounce > really so I guess we have on our system to get these bounce email and clean > our list. Thx for your time by the way, I really appreciate it. :) What's the address of this web form to sign up. I have some *koff* *koff* "friends" that would like to sign up. A form like this that does not send a confirmation email is an invitation for abuse. Most legitimate e-mail marketers rely on confirmed opt-in. Even allowing too many requests for confirmation to be sent can get you tagged as a spammer. One thought that has been running through the back of my head is "What the hell do they have to say that 1 million people want to hear?" Sounds rather spammish. Convince me I'm wrong.