Go here: http://www.lsoft.com/download/listserv.asp and scroll down all the way to the bottom of the page. - - - Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:33:20 -0500 From: "Gartner, James" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Upgrade from 14.4 to 14.5 EVALUATION version Folks, I need to upgrade from my 14.4 evaluation to a 14.5 evaluation. The upgrade information for 14.5 says you need a 14.5 LAK FIRST before doing the install. How can I get the 14.5 evaluation LAK before installing the 14.5 system?? Thanks, Jim