Ben
	While my list doesn’t have anyone from the domains listed, I do
appreciate the time you took to post this information. It is much
appreciated. 

Have a great weekend!


Nathan W. Gray
Systems Administrator
Campus Card Services
James Madison University
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On 4/11/14, 10:42 AM, "Ben Parker" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>So what do we know about what is going on?  What magic LISTSERV settings
>do I
>need to work around this?  Should I turn off or change my auto-delete
>settings?  What can I as a list owner do?
>
>First, let's be clear on what is happening.
>
>A subscriber/list member from *@besteffort.com address (or other private
>domain) posts a message to your list.  It goes to all subscribers.  No
>problem
>for anyone.
>
>A subscriber/list member from *@yahoo.com posts a message (or a reply to
>the
>above message) to your list.  This will go to some subscribers, but will
>NOT
>go to subscribers/list members at yahoo.com or
>hotmail.com/live.com/msn.com/
>outlook.com, Comcast.net, Gmail.com and several other domains.  Messages
>to
>these domains will not only not be delivered but will be bounced/refused
>as if
>the recipients at those domains do not exist.  Thus, after a few such
>messages, your subscribers/list members at all of those problematic
>domains
>are at risk to be auto-deleted from your list(s).  This may amount to more
>than half of your total subscribers.
>
>
>What can you do about this?  Immediate solutions:
>
>For now, you must prevent subscribers/list members from *@yahoo.com
>addresses
>from posting any messages to your list.  They simply cannot participate in
>your list if they send from a *@yahoo.com address.  They can receive and
>read
>messages from other subscribers/list members and they can send from
>another
>address, if they have one.
>
> The LISTSERV command is:    QUIET SET listname NOPOST FOR *@yahoo.*
>
>Send a message to your list explaining the issue and what action members
>from
>*@yahoo.com addresses will need to take to continue to participate in the
>list.  (Basically, get a new email address.)
>
>
>ALTERNATIVE:  You can set all members from *@yahoo.com addresses to REVIEW
>status.  This means their messages will come to a moderator/editor of your
>list.  The moderator/editor can then forward/repost the message so that it
>comes from their own address, not from the *@yahoo.com address that
>originally
>posted the message.  This can be a lot of work and for some lists the
>traffic
>is simply too great for this to be a viable option.
>
> The LISTSERV command is:    QUIET SET listname REVIEW FOR *@yahoo.*
>
>
>----------------
>The simple answer is that for the moment, you cannot allow list members
>with
>*@yahoo.com addresses to post messages to your lists.
>
>
>1. Should we put a filter in place to preclude new yahoo accounts?
>
> LIst configuration setting:    Filter= also, *@yahoo.*
>
>Yes, this will prevent posted messages, and new subscribers from posting
>messages or joining your list.
>
>
>2. Are digests included in Yahoo's trap?
>
>No. Digests are formed by and sent from LISTSERV@... Even though there
>may be
>messages from *@yahoo.* within the Digest, the From: address is
>LISTSERV@...
>and this does not cause any problem.  But you need to set ALL subscribers
>to
>Digest:
>
>The LISTSERV command is:    QUIET SET listname DIGEST FOR *@*
>
>
>Longer term solutions:
>
>L-Soft is working on a change to LISTSERV that will basically re-write the
>From: *@yahoo.com addresses to something that does not cause the
>bounce/rejection problem.  This requires changes at the server level and
>is
>not accessible to subscribers or List Owners.  This is in testing now.
>One
>problem with this approach is that such re-written From: addresses will
>likely
>go into your "spam" folder where you may not see them.  Although this is
>problematic in itself, this is somewhat better than not allowing any
>messages
>from *@yahoo.com address at all.
>
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