While this used to be a problem in the past, I have not heard of a university dropping LISTSERV for cost reasons in years. The only real attrition is when a university decides to go all Google Applications because it is
free open and the application of choice in the corporate world, giving students a boost in their coming careers (in an alternate reality where the corporate world has abandoned Windows and Office 365 even though Google Applications is not even free for
them), and everything is moved to Google Groups as part of the deal. A less frequent reason is that the LISTSERV admin has just retired, although in most cases we can then transfer the service to our hosting servers.
Eric
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From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Russell Hunt
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 18:07
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: HISTARCH list has vanished completely
A couple of reflections from a long-time, but not especially knowledgable, listowner. I'm surprised about ASU here; my impression is that they've been a pretty reliable host for academic lists for a long time. On the other hand . . .
many universities seem to have come to the conclusion that listservs are, um, old hat, and expensive, when people could use more trendy social media. That seems to me flat wrong, since in general "social media" assume that if it's more than 24 hours old it's
not only forgettable, but hey presto! already forgotten. A substantial number have decided, or are deciding, that LISTSERV is too expensive to justify for the on-campus use it's getting. I've had to move one smallish group to GoogleGroups, and I know of another
academic listserv that had to do the same because the host university dropped LISTSERV. The result has been that discussion has been essentially extinguished by the participation limitations of GoogleGroups. If you have to move this list off ASU, I wish you
luck looking for a suitable host: it's not going to be easy. LISTSERV isn't, and shouldn't be, cheap.
-- Russ
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From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Clausen
Sent: February-16-17 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: HISTARCH list has vanished completely
LSoft's ListPlex service, which provides hosting, is here:
http://www.lsoft.com/products/listplex.asp
This is for paying customers. Historically, they have donated hosting to a few non-profit orgs (I don't know if they are still taking on new groups):
http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?INDEX
Not listed here is a group of cancer lists to which they donated services back in 1996. The non-profit org under which they were organized has pretty much dissolved over the years, but LSoft continues to host several of the lists, some
of which are very active.
Charles Clausen
ppml-info.org
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:21:25 -0700, Anita Cohen-Williams <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>In the meantime, if I can get the list back and all the archives, I
>think I need to move it to another host. Does L-Soft host lists?
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