I don’t really know what to say other than “it looks like a zombie message”.  It would be all but impossible to diagnose what really happened at this point.  We certainly don’t have LISTSERV logs from April 2017 to determine what was going on then that might have caused the message to get hung up that long ago, if indeed that’s what happened.

 

So it doesn’t seem particularly profitable at this point to continue the discussion.

 

Nathan

 

From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Hal Keen
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:42 PM
To: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [LSTOWN-L] Long-delayed messages?

 

Thanks, Nathan.

But in this particular case, there does seem to have been something different from what you describe:

On 11/18/2019 8:03 AM, Nathan Brindle wrote:

2) Not having seen the full headers on the message myself, the only thing I can suggest is that the message was hung up in a queue somewhere between L-Soft and the eventual recipient, and a mail server reboot or some other action simply dislodged it.  Depending on how that happened, it's possible the message could have looped back through the list.  We see that sort of thing from time to time and basically it's just a head-scratcher as to how a mail server could punch out an old message like that.  They're just zombie messages from the Internet, or whatever you want to call it, I guess.
 


While I'm entirely ready to believe in zombie messages, in this case it looks like they were hung up, in L-Soft, before they reached the list. Here's the relevant part of the header on the first message:

Received: by PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 17.0) with spool id
          300981801 for [log in to unmask]; Fri, 15 Nov 2019
          09:41:32 -0500
Approved-By: [log in to unmask]
Approved-By: [log in to unmask]
Received: from loquat.ease.lsoft.com (loquat.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.170]) by
          RHONE.EASE.LSOFT.COM (SMTPL release 1.1d) (envelope-from
          <[log in to unmask]>) for [log in to unmask] with TCP;
          Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:02:03 -0400
Received: from [209.119.0.169] ([209.119.0.169:50506]
          helo=PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM) by camaro.dc.lsoft.com (envelope-from
          <[log in to unmask]>) (ecelerity 3.6.0.39694 r(Platform:3.6.0.0))
          with ESMTP id 60/59-02039-BC4CBF85; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:02:03 -0400
 
 
The second message, a reply a couple hours later, had similar trace entries.
 
Hal Keen
 

 


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