Is anyone else concerned that the BITNIC seems to be subject to the Not-Invented-Here Syndrome? They have been quite unresponsive to the requests from the Membership to make greater use of NETSERV, and until recently have completely ignored the FRECP11-LISTSERV. Given the fact that they will have no development money under the new budget, this is a very bad mindset. True, they are allowed to build tools for their own use, but the budget explicitly states that no funds are to be expended on software development. This is presumably intended to foster the cooperative attitude that already exists, in addition to slaying the BITDOC dragon. (Remember the BITDOC? What's become of them and their Development projects?) There is a very good reason why the BITNIC should run the FRECP11-LISTSERV: it is less labor intensive. On September 22, 1986 I requested that INFO@BITNIC add several (9) new users to one mailing list each. On October 6, they did so, and responded. It takes two weeks to get on a mailing list, because the documented procedure (in LISTSERV GROUPS on NICSERVE) is to send mail to [log in to unmask] With a smarter LISTSERV, it would take about 5 minutes from my site (your mileage may vary, depending on network distance.) In light of the recent inquiries into what the BITNIC does, whether it should continue to exist, and it's funding model, I should think that they would jump at a system which makes them more responsive to the people who have to decide on their viability and performance.