We don't have RFC822 in EARN/BITNET and we will never have it: It would mean to get rid of EBCDIC :-) But anyway: As far as I remember Alan at his SHARE Bof his new version of MAILER will work with BSMTP in the way that it simply adds one "Received: ..." at the top and does not look on the remaining contents. (and of course, does not return replies if you dont have a tick or verb on). I hope that new feature will help LISTSERV a lot. Alan, when will you distribute this new mailer? Peter