OK, RITVM would like to be part of the backbone... with some hesitation... The last few updates of LISTSERV have not gone well, whether it was missing files or scrogged CARD files or whatever; and Eric, sorry, but you haven't been exactly prompt (read: not at all sometimes) about answering my mail (BTW thanks, Harold, for helping me out). As long as I know I can get answers/support somewhere, count me in. Due to past problems with non-loadable CARD files, I don't think auto update is a good idea at my end of the net (haven't seen that problem in some time, but CARD files aren't frequent). /jenny