I have eventually completed the LISTSERV installation guide for release 1.5j. The previous one was really *too* obsolete, ordered you to do things which were no longer necessary with 1.5i and no longer POSSIBLE with 1.5j, referred to commands which had been superseded, etc. This document is available in paper format (about 50 pages) or as a file, LISTINST MEMO (1800 lines). If I had time I would re-beta-test the modified 1.5j, but then I don't think I have time. Starting next week I will be working (to get money) outside of FRECP11 for about 2 weeks, maybe a little more, and I don't know how often I will be able to come. So I can either send beta shipments tomorrow to the test sites and send out 1.5j to everybody "later", probably 1-2 weeks later (note: this assumes I have a nonzero amount of time left after processing my reader :-) ), or send it on right now to everybody. Anyway I'll have to start distributing it as 5 sites are waiting to get it - I had refused to send them 1.5i because 1.5j was "due soon with a much better installation guide" and they've been waiting for 2 weeks already. Oh, you don't know the last one from the school direction. Now they want to buy us 3380s-AE!!! But to buy them we must sell our 3375s. So we're going to sell our three *brand new, just unpacked from the factory* 3375s for about 20% the price we paid them 5 months ago, and with this money and the additional funds from the school direction, we'll get *one* 3380-AE4. And now please tell me what happens if the one and only 3380-AE4 dies. And tell me when we'll find enough money to buy a second one. Expanding a 3380-AE string tends to be quite expensive, especially as you can't buy secondhand, uh? Why don't we keep the 3375s, considering that we'll get almost nothing out of them? Oh well... I wish that but 10% of the money lost every day by this silly school got transferred to my bank account. I would not have to worry about earning my living then... :-) Eric