>If someone wants to have a non-backbone listserv - then they have to be >cut-off from the backbone. Uh? Well obviously if someone wants to have a non-backbone LISTSERV, he wants to be cut off from the backbone. A non-backbone site should not be allowed as a DIST receiver (except possibly for his local node recipients), because by definition his tables are be likely to be outdated and it would cause inefficient distribution (in the best case). If you want better service from LISTSERV, you should be prepared to provide a higher degree of service to the other sites as well, and to accept a reasonable amount of responsibility for the operation of your server. They should be allowed to use mail-via= distribute though, or then they'd be using vanilla lists and spewing out 150 files at each distribution. They do not, in moral terms, DESERVE it, but if we're too uncooperative we'll end up harming the network as a whole. Eric