Please keep in mind that whatever the implementation, the postmaster will have to store the file himself, otherwise you have a security expose. What I mean is: - The list owner controls what gets put in the list header, and we don't want to change that. - If the list owner can choose the fileid, we have a security exposure. - If the fileid is fixed (eg 'listname GREETING'), the postmaster still needs to authorize the list owner to store it; and if the contents of this file contain MAILFORM information, the postmaster must check it out before installing it, for security reasons. The only thing you could allow a list owner to do without postmaster authorization is to place a pure-text blurb (nothing interpreted) into the greeting mailforms; this blurb would have to be defined in the list header itself. I don't think this would provide enough functionality, except in some particular cases: mailform interpretation is almost always needed. Besides, you don't have to maintain a full mailform if you only want to change the greeting: just create a mailform file containing only the updated $SIGNUP and LISTSERV will automatically pick up the other messages from the standard mailform file. Eric