Let's not fight wars about that. If I understand Eric correctly - and I think I do - all he said is: I will provide support for LISTSERV on "present-day" releases of CMS. I will not support zillions of different (and outdated) releases, dead ends or exotics nor will I jump and re-write LISTSERV for every fancy new improved much-better release IBM "offers". If you request from IBM that you get a working VTAM with your new VM then that's reasonable (btw you don't get it: see VM/XA). But why demand from Eric to make an unconditional statement of support ? 'nuf said, i.e. we should say once again "Thanks" to Eric. Too often we take LISTSERV and Eric's support and help for granted. Ok? Christian