Herb, this would require extensive modifications to the code, all over the place, and probably the provision of a multi-tasking system allowing you to FTP while at the same time continuing to work on something else, since FTP is synchronous and S&F is asynchronous. This does not mean your idea is not a good one, it means it is one of these changes that will eventually have to be made but which can't be done in just 15 minutes. That is also one of the reasons I have mentioned for the split of LISTSERV - you have just suggested the use of direct connections over the Internet, using TCP/IP protocols, whereas EARN would suggest the use of direct connections over the OSI backbone, using OSI protocols... Eric