Eric, you are of course, right. What would be really nice is if every INTERBIT behaved the same way and was kept updated as best as possible. Except for one piece of mail in the last 100, each time I resent the non-delivered mail out via CUNYVM, I got an immediate (as immediate can be) success in sending where other gates couldn't do it. I don't have any say in Listserv policy here (and people aren't exactly beating a path to me to find out what I think about Listserv). To dream the impossible dream :-). /Geert