Harry, et al: If you have a problem with BITNIC operations you can feel free to address it to us, or to call us. But when I ask a question of a forum I do not expect to be flamed for every foible that BITNIC has comitted or is allegedly comitting. That type of B.S. is precisely why BITNIC does not seem to work closely with "network volunteers." People tell us we should consult with our volunteers and ask questions, but when we do we generally receive invective and misplaced indignation. I have been accused of sounding arrogant and pompous in the past, but I can't hold a candle to what I've seen on this network. If the network volunteers truly want to be helpful they they can start by acting in a helpful manner, instead of spewing garbage all over the network about what a miserable job we're doing. Andy