>seriously considering the concept of a "hate list" for gateways. Sounds like a good idea. The concept of a local overriding hate list sounds especially useful. By the way, RFC1123 has a few things to say about the format of dates. It admits that it was foolish all along to prohibit 4-digit years and gives an official blessing to them. LISTSERV could lead the way in adopting the newly improved standard. It also admits another folly: the so-called "military" time zones were all backwards from actual military usage! RFC1123 officially removes the blessing from those one-letter time zone codes. John