From: Mignon Erixon-Stanford How about a translation table on the VAX? At SIVM, we've got the (IBM) 8x8 name/node restriction but VAX people on SIMSC have 12+ character userids. In order for our routing tables to be able to work properly (from PROFS - and don't say YUCK, Eric), the VAX folks had to translate the ids. This approach might work for your problem. A VAX person you might contact is David Bridge: DAVID@SIMSC and he can tell you exactly what he did. IRMSS907@SIVM (202) 357-4243 Smithsonian Institution, OIRM Research Systems Division A&I 2310, Washington, DC 20560