Well, seeing the number of LISTSERV sites which haven't installed 1.7b because it requires a new format BITEARN NODES file and they are still running a pre-9109 version, it seems the only way we stand even a meager chance of getting people to install decently recent versions of BITEARN NODES (and migrating to the new format) is to post a list of sites with outdated BITEARN NODES files. So, here goes. Note that the survey was run over a period of about 2 weeks, which is what it took to get a reply from over 90% of the servers, so it is not impossible that some sites have upgraded since then. Eric The following 67 servers (27%) use an outdated BITEARN NODES file: ALBNYDH2 VERS9111 ANDESCOL VERS9109 BGUVM VERS9110 (backbone server) BLIULG11 VERS9109 BRLNCC VERS9111 BRUFPB VERS9109 BRUFSC VERS9111 BRUSPVM VERS9111 CFRVM VERS9105 CUVMA VERS9107 DCZTU1 VERS9111 DGOGWDG1 VERS9105 DJUKFA11 VERS9108 EB0UB011 VERS9101 EB0UB012 VERS9101 EMUVM1 VERS9103 FRCPN11 VERS9107 FRMOP11 VERS9109 (backbone server) FRULM11 VERS9010 (backbone server) GUVM VERS9111 HASARA11 VERS9106 IBACSATA VERS9107 (backbone server) INACRIAI VERS9010 INDYCMS VERS9111 IPFWVM VERS9111 IRISHVM VERS9108 IUBVM VERS9111 JPNCUN10 VERS9106 JPNKEKVM VERS9106 (backbone server) JPNKISCI VERS9107 KRSNUCC1 VERS9108 LLUVM VERS9108 LMUACAD VERS9108 MSU VERS9111 NMSUVM1 VERS9005 NOBIVM VERS9110 NRCVM01 VERS9110 NUSVM VERS9108 (backbone server) POLYGRAF VERS9106 (backbone server) PUCING VERS9111 RICELIBR VERS9107 RITVM VERS9111 (backbone server) SDSUVM VERS9111 TAMCBA VERS9107 TCUBVM VERS9108 TEMPLEVM VERS9110 (backbone server) TRINITY VERS9111 (backbone server) TSCVM VERS8904 TTUVM1 VERS9109 TWNMOE10 VERS9108 (backbone server) UABDPO VERS9111 (backbone server) UCHDCI01 VERS9104 (backbone server) UMCVMB VERS9111 UMDSCVM VERS9111 UMINN1 VERS8810 UMRVMB VERS9111 (backbone server) UMSLVMA VERS9111 UMSSMDVM VERS9108 UMVMA VERS9111 UNCCVM VERS9104 UNCVM1 VERS9111 (backbone server) UNMVM VERS9110 WATDCS VERS9108 WAYNEST1 VERS9110 (backbone server) WCU VERS9111 (backbone server) WUVMD VERS9111 (backbone server) YSUB VERS9111 (backbone server)