On Thu, 12 Mar 1992 11:59:01 EST Alton Brantley <[log in to unmask]> said: >I am, and have been for over two years, using listserv over the >internet. In particular, I have a Macintosh running an X Server >connected to a Sun 4/280 running SUN-OS which is connected over the >Internet. I have no difficulty being on numerous lists and receiving >messages. I also am a list owner for several (internal and external >lists) that I work with in the above arrangement. > > What is the part that doesn't run smoothly? You get "Segmentation fault" if you FTP a copy of LISTSERV, do 'chmod 777 lsvprof' and try to run 'lsvprof' :-) On a more serious note, the Internet people are not happy with a number of things. They'd like me to change the code to make IETFHDR the one and only existing option. They want the full original message with its own headers (not the ones LISTSERV generates) in the archives, even if that means you need twice the space and database searches are made impractical. You won't be surprised to hear that they don't like the syntax of the file server functions, especially the filenames and filelists. They want support for XXENCODE (or whatever the latest encoding fashion is called) and splitting mail messages so that you don't hit gateway limits; you should be able to re-order arbitrary segments in case they get lost on the way. They may not have realized that one simply can't xyzENCODE a VM (or VMS, MVS, etc) file, send it through a gateway and get the same thing on the way back, because files aren't streams of bytes on normal operating systems, but they aren't precisely interested in retrieving VM files, and it works fine for their unix tar files. I must say I am amazed at the amount of energy the Internet community is spending finding clumsy ways to avoid having to develop a sender-initiated, binary file transfer protocol that doesn't require you logon password. People are apparently happy to get software in bunches of 50 mail files which have to be counted, reassembled, de-encoded, and so on. The worst is that they think of this technique as something superior to our stone-age protocols, something we should strive for. Ah well. Eric