I forgot to mention in my last posting - I also use Renewal= Monthly on STREK-L which will clean up users that are expired/deleted at their hosts/unable to answer from their hosts, etc. This in conjunction with shunting the error messages to the 'bit bucket' makes the maintenance of these large, active recreational lists tolerable. I could always close down a troublesome list, but especially in this case, I also enjoy the topic, and being selfish, want the list to continue. +---------------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Russell N. Hathhorn | Bitnet: SYSMAINT@PCCVM | | VM Systems Progammer/Analyst | Compu$erve: 76636,1036 | | Portland Community College | Voice: (503) 244-6111 x 4705 | | 12000 S. W. 49th Avenue | Fax: (503) 324-7010 | | Portland, Oregon 97219-0990 | " Just say NO to OCO " | +---------------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms | | is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."| | -- Thomas Jefferson | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+