On Wed, 5 Aug 1992 23:50:45 -0500 Dan Wheeler <[log in to unmask]> said: >Here is an example of what this would look like if mail to me >bounced: > > Subject: LSTOWN-L reject from: [log in to unmask] > ----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----| > 10 20 30 40 I don't like this new wording very much either, since it is confusing to new owners ("What's a LSTOWN-L reject, oh sh*t what did I do wrong? :(((((" :-) ). However, it just occured to me that the username the mail software is using as origin for its complaints is not really relevant, what you really want to know is what site this is coming from. So I suggest one of the following instead: Subject: LSTOWN-L: delivery error from ucbeh.san.uc.edu LSTOWN-L: error report from ucbeh.san.uc.edu Delivery error from ucbeh.san.uc.edu on list LSTOWN-L Delivery error for LSTOWN-L from ucbeh.san.uc.edu ----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----| 10 20 30 40 Or something similar. The key points are that both list name and failing hostname should be included, and the message should be reasonably clear for a novice list owner. I will implement #2 unless there are strong objections. Eric