On Mon, 21 Sep 1992 10:39:03 CDT "George D. Greenwade" <BED_GDG@SHSU> said: >Conceptually, so long as BITNET focuses on being a "VM mainframe" >network, (...) This complaint extends to LISTSERV, which is exclusively >VM-oriented Could you please expand on this statement? I'm afraid I simply don't understand what you are talking about. The line protocols used on BITNET were developed for IBM machines, so they are IBM-ish in nature, in much the same way that most Internet protocols are unix-ish in nature. There is nothing that can be done about that, as you said it is what makes BITNET BITNET and the Internet the Internet. Within that framework, could you please elaborate on what specific actions of CREN, EARN or any other cooperating network makes you think that BITNET is being developed as a "VM mainframe" network? When reviewing the recent changes volunteer developers like me introduced in their software, do you get the impression that these people are making the network more or less "VM-mainframe-oriented", and why? Eric