There was a "Mailing Lists" workshop session at the USENIX System Administration Conference (LISA VI) in Long Beach, CA, on October 22, 1992. The participants in that workshop expressed a desire for a mailing list for discussions of issues related to managing Internet mailing lists, including (but not limited to) software, methods, mechanisms, techniques, and policies. I've created the list as "[log in to unmask]". That address is a direct mail reflector; all messages sent to that address are immediately forwarded to the list. There is digestified version of the list is available as "[log in to unmask]". The digestified version has exactly the same messages as the direct version; the messages are simply bundled into digests daily (or more frequently, if traffic warrants). Both lists are unmoderated. To join the List-Managers mailing list, send the command subscribe list-managers in the body of a message to "[log in to unmask]". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-list-managers": subscribe list-managers [log in to unmask] To subscribe to the digestified version, substitute "list-managers-digest" for "list-managers" in the examples above. The list is currently in "hold down" mode while the initial flood of subscription requests is processed. All messages sent to the list while it's in this mode will be returned to the sender with a note asking the sender to hold on to the message until the list is opened for general traffic. I expect the initial flood of subscription requests to subside and the list to be opened for general traffic around the end of October. All messages to the list are being archived. A copy of the archive is available by anonymous FTP from host FTP.GreatCircle.COM, directory "pub/archive", compressed file "list-managers.Z". The copy of the archive available by anonymous FTP is updated every night at midnight local time (0700 GMT in the summer, 0800 GMT in the winter). At some point, I intend to add archive-access commands to the Majordomo server, to make the archives available to folks without anonymous FTP access. I'll announce that when it happens. I'm very aggressive when it comes to bounced email. If email to you bounces for more than 24 hours, I'll probably simply drop you from the list; you'll have to resubscribe when you get the problem fixed, and retrieve the archives to find out what you missed. For further information, contact: Brent Chapman Great Circle Associates [log in to unmask] 1057 West Dana Street +1 415 962 0841