One of the very helpful folks who privately emailed me solutions to my disabillity happened to hit the nail on the head: the suggestion was made to use the 'h' command in elm to reveal the hidden headers. Now, in the novice (starter-default) menu for elm, there is no hint that such a command exists. The headers one does see take up half a screen, and how shall the unwary know there's more? Further, the 'h' command when struck once, simply flashes the successive headers, about half-a-secondeach, on the first line of the screen before laying out the stable message. It's only on the third or fourth frustrated smack that everything goes as it should: an lo and behold, there's the 'From' line with an address that I can write down and then enter manually to send private mail. Elm is a widely-used mailsystem. The information I would have needed doesn't appear in the manuals I've been given (on two systems now). The computer experts at the info lines didn't have a clue. PLEASE, all you wizards, try to remember how it was before you knew all that good stuff? I, too, have an esoteric field of my own: to me, the computer network is a lovely toy and useful tool. I'm trying hard to learn what I need to. Thanks, especially to all those who sent helpful and gentle suggestions. --bayla