>Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 15:36:33 -0700 >From: Gene V Glass <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: It's rainng ERRORS (. . .) > In short, what do you people do? Do you religiously sit there > and do everybody's UNSUBBing for them? And let me tell you about the > concealed users. There are some errors messages that must be coming from > old concealed users who I can't discover at all. So am I fated to spend > eternity deleting error messages from these ghosts? I seem to recall that > my support people said that finding these concealed people and deleting > them was a little tough. Find a highly qualified Co-Owner! Pete Weiss, a frequent poster to this list, joined me as Co-Owner of my 3 lists with the provision that he be a QUIET owner. I take the initial "burst" of bounces and look for USER UNKNOWN or HOST UNKNOWN errors and I forward ONE BOUNCE to Pete for his analysis and action. The CAN'T CONNECT FOR 3 DAYS type usually correct themselves and I just keep deleting them until they stop. Using this two step procedure seems to be working quite well-- I handle 400 bounces which result in 5 or 6 "action" messages to Pete. He does the port 25 checks, setting of NOMAIL, or deleting the subscriber, notes to postmasters and/or node reps, and any other technical coordination regarding a "problem" address. Without Pete, I would shut the lists down as a waste of scarce computing resources because I just wouldn't have the time/expertise to adequately deal with these problems. . . . Phil--- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-PHIL ENDACOTT (PE38)=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |*| Facilities Operations | <[log in to unmask]> |*| |*| Lawrence, Kansas 66045 | <[log in to unmask]> |*| |*| FAX: 913-864-4707 | <[log in to unmask]> |*| |*| WORK:913-864-3204 | Co-Owner: TQM-L, LDBASE-L, JANITORS |*| =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=THE UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=