On Thu, 11 Feb 1993 17:28:45 EST Matthew Simpson <054340@UOTTAWA> said: >4. The two big official people here at uottawa are telling me that the > Listserv program will not be able to run right (um, not be maintained > and updated?) without the letters R-S-C-S, whatever that means. Right. By leaving BITNET, U of Ottawa will terminate its right to use LISTSERV. So the LISTSERV at UOTTAWA will be gone. Shit happens. I fail to see the relationship between the unfortunate problem you are having with U of Ottawa and the broad statements you made about the death of BITNET and LISTSERV. See, NCSU and UNC have decided to dump their VM system. That means their LISTSERV will be gone, same situation as you. Does that mean that BITNET is being terminated, or that NCSU and UNC have decided to replace a VM system with unix systems? I could give you a list of sites which got upgrades to their VM systems, and a list of sites which are increasing their commitment to BITNET, running lots of new lists, and so on. Sadly, you happen to be working for a site which is getting rid of BITNET, but the leak in your roof doesn't mean it's raining in every home over the country. Eric