I just noticed that if a list owner includes a file with filename filetype being <listname> WELCOME in the filelist for that list, it gets sent automatically to new subscribers. Is there something similar for SIGNOFF or unsubscribe function ? If not, where should I look in the $DEFAULT MAILFORM to modify the message that gets sent out to people when they sign off automatically ? There is :DELETE1 that are sent out when peole are deleted by the owner, but what about if they sign off by themselves ?! Thanks for any info. Tram Nguyen.