In article <[log in to unmask]>, Chris Lewis ([log in to unmask]) wrote: : At about the same time it last happened to you, it also happened to me. : I started pursuing it, and the upshot was that I got subscribed to the : LSTSRV-L list. There was a lively discussion on this, including with : the author of LISTSERV, Eric Thomas. : I assure you, this isn't on account of any incompetence on Una's part. : As I understand it, there are two gateways involved. One that is gateing : news into mail, and the second is gating the mail into a LISTSERV list. : It is the second gateway which is doing the duplicate checks. The problem : is that there is no way for the second gateway to tell that the item : originated on news. : Eric was indeed interested in coming up with a solution of some sort. : About the only possible solution seems to be if any two of Newsgroups:, : Path:, Expires:, Supersedes: is there, the bounce will be suppressed. I gateway half-a-dozen or so mailing lists into usenet and back for local reading. What I do is: (1) have the mail->news gateway insert an identifiable path component into the path, and put !component in the newsfeeds (or sys-file, I did it with C-News too) file to avoid it being sent out by the news->mail gateway. (2) rather than passing it through inews, I pass the incoming article to 'rnews', which just logs it if it's a duplicate. I get duplicates on a regular basis (I carry both [log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask] as mailing lists, and at least one person regularly sends mail to both lists with the same message-ID). This worked with both C-News and INN. (3) I set the "envelope" of outgoing news->mail posts to be news@news... so that bounces and the like wind up in my mailbox, not going back to usenet or the list. (4) for "Revised Listserv" lists, I tell LISTSERV to "set header ietf". I know "proper" interpretation of the RFC's is a religious issue, but doing this doesn't break any software or introduce unwanted headers. Your mileage may vary, but I don't get problems with mailing-list loops (knock on wood). -- Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] <internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug Geek (ca. 1942): a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usu. includes biting the head off a live chicken or snake - Websters.