We have been getting the following error for the last few days. Does anyone know what I am supposed to do (if anything) to fix this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam Floro Systems Programmer Information Technology Phone: (618) 453-6238 Southern Illinois University Fax: (618) 453-5261 Carbondale, IL 62901 E-mail: [log in to unmask] ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Received: from SIUCVMB.BITNET by SIUCVMB.BITNET (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 5697; Tue, 14 Sep 93 10:38:02 CST Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 10:38:02 -0600 From: BITNET list server at SIUCVMB (1.7f) <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Problem processing mail file from [log in to unmask] To: "Roy E. Miller" <[log in to unmask]> Error occurred while processing file 2848 from [log in to unmask]: "Mail has been received for list DEAF-L from a user which has been served out". Because of its size, the original message has been transferred to CA0141@SIUCVMB; what you are seeing below is only the first 100 lines. ---------------- Message causing the problem (first 100 lines) ---------------- Return-Path: <@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU:[log in to unmask]> Received: from UIUCVMD (NJE origin SMTP@UIUCVMD) by VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3953; Tue, 14 Sep 1993 10:36:25 -0500 Received: from vm42.cso.uiuc.edu by vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 14 Sep 93 10:36:23 CDT Received: from att.att.com by vm42.cso.uiuc.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 14 Sep 93 15:35:25 UTC From: [log in to unmask] Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 08:23:37 EDT To: @VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU,@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU:[log in to unmask] Subject: mail warning We have been unable to contact machine 'att-mh' to deliver mail you sent. Our attempts to deliver your mail will continue for 6 more day(s). No further action is required by you. The following mail has not been delivered: att-mh!mail hogpa.ho.att.com!cynthia (Date 09/10) If you wish to kill the job, contact our administrator at att!uucp and ask to kill UUCP job att-mhJe8d8. Sincerely, att!uucp #################### Data File: #################### From VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU!VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU!SIUCVMB.BITNET!DEAF-L Fri Sep 10 17:48:3 0 GMT 1993 remote from att Received: by att.att.com; Fri Sep 10 15:17:34 EDT 1993 Received: from VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU by vm42.cso.uiuc.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3523; Fri, 10 Sep 93 19:25:42 UTC Received: from VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (NJE origin MAILER@UIUCVMD) by VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0460; Fri, 10 Sep 1993 19:16:28 +0000 Received: from VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UIUCVMD) by VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5847; Fri, 10 Sep 1993 14:09:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 17:48:30 GMT Reply-To: DEAF LIST <[log in to unmask]> Sender: DEAF LIST <[log in to unmask]> Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was [log in to unmask] From: Sandra Barbosa <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Boston University Subject: Re: options To: Multiple recipients of list DEAF-L <[log in to unmask] uiuc.edu> : >The bottom line in the hearing world (and it's : >terrible) but deaf=deaf. Whether you talk, lipread, write or sign...you : >are not hearing. That's the bottom line. Signing Deaf have no problem with : >this since they accept their deafness and find pride in their culture. : >That is why I mentioned self-esteem. : > This means that although one may work very hard at being oral, one is still deaf. There is a difference between being a Deaf person who signs within their own culture and talks or mouths with hearing people, a Deaf person who signs within their community and writes or gestures or uses an interpreter with hearing people, and lastly a deaf person who is oral and refuses to learn sign (for whatever reason) and tries to live a 'hearing' life. In the eyes of a hearing 'man on the street' these people are the same. That is what I meant. A Deaf person (note the capital D) has no problem with this since they accept their deafness and have pride in their culture. Some/many/ most oralists do not find pride in their deafness and strive to be as 'hearing' as possible. IMO someone who is content with their achievements and limitations has greater self-esteem than someone who tries to be someone else. I view Lew's choices like I view the choices that many children of immigrants or very ethnic Americans make. They grow up, move away from the ethnicity, change their last name , take voice lessons to get rid of their accent and dress and play Mr & Mrs. White yuppie. That is their right. I am not judging their decisions and choices. I am simply noting that they have made a conscious decision to become or try to become like 'everybody else', the majority. They do not find pride in their 'uniqueness'. That (IMO) is evidence of low self-esteem. Is it possible to exist in America and be both ethnic AND mainstream?????? I do. I have a rich Portuguese heritage that is part of my life although I lead a typical white American life. I have no trouble attending a Red Sox game on Saturday and having fun at the Feast of the Blessed Sacrament on Sunday (the largest Portuguese festival in the country--US) I will admit that as a teenager I was embarassed to be Portuguese. This is not a very loved race in the city I live. But as an adult I rose above the stereotypes and decided I didn't want to ignore part of my heritage due to the ignorance of others. I am who I am. I am both ethnic and mainstream. I don't want to be either extreme. If someone denies who they really are by masking or hiding their 'ethnic' identities, I do think it is a self esteem issue. If someone tries to be all that they can be, retaining, of course, who they are, while 'enhancing' their life with other experiences..........great!!! : What does this mean anyway? I see this buzz word phrase (gospel?) "accept : their/your deafness" and I do not understand it at all. : Many people who are deaf and sign (signing deaf?) have also taken speech cl >>> 17 line(s) deleted...