Please comment on the following sketch, which I am working on for my list. Does it solve a problem? Is it worthwhile? Should I simply forget it? Note that I have already searched "copyright" in lstown-l logs, and also have discovered cni-copyright. --- Here are some copyright guidelines for <listname>: USE MADE OF <listname> DOCUMENTS IN PRINT MEDIA 1. Posts made by individuals. Copyright law grants ownership of material upon creation. No copyright notice need be appended for a person to own his or her own writings. If you want to reproduce a <listname> post in a print medium, you must get the author's permission, unless your use falls under "fair use" or "scholarly use" guidelines, in which case it is recommended that you contact the original poster. Posts may seem like the written word, but they are often experimental, and authors deserve a chance to clarify themselves before they appear in print. Remember that control is impossible in this electronic medium. By being a subscriber you accept this fact. Control of subscribers' and researchers' behavior is not possible on any list, including <listname>. As such, if you feel that you have suffered damages as a result of a reproduction of your words by another person or persons, it will be your responsibility to approach them and deal with them directly. You are the publisher of your posts, and they are the usurper. <listname> itself plays no part, despite the fact that it is moderated. The moderation affords the owner/editor no control over subscriber/researcher behavior. As a subscriber you accept this fact. 2. Papers written by groups of individuals. Papers will have appended to them basic instructions, to the effect that reproduction is acceptable in any forum provided that no changes are made and that credit is given in the exact manner outlined in the paper itself. Also, in keeping with fair use/scholarly use laws, complete portions may also be reproduced, with proper citation. USE MADE OF <listname> DOCUMENTS IN ELECTRONIC MEDIA (other than <listname>) 1. Posts made by individuals. Subscribers recognize that the Internet enjoys a culture of free dissemination of ideas and information, and that no control is possible, by any party, over the final destinations of posts. This culture of freely disseminated ideas and information falls largely under the area of scholarly reproduction and use. In other words, while a poster retains the rights to use his or her material in the future, others also have the right to repost it because such reposting is scholarly in nature - i.e., such reposting is not intended for profit, but rather for discussion purposes. If a subscriber wishes, s/he may indicate that electronic redistribution rights are not granted along with their post. However, control is impossible. Subscribers are responsible for what they post, and for what becomes of what they post. There is no difference here between <listname> and other lists. 2. Papers written by groups of individuals. Papers will have appended to them basic instructions, to the effect that reproduction is acceptable in any forum provided that no changes are made and that credit is given in the exact manner outlined in the paper itself. Also, in keeping with fair use/scholarly use laws, complete portions may also be reproduced, with proper citation. USE MADE OF <listname> DOCUMENTS ON <listname> Simply use your reply function, which automatically generates a sender and a date marked by ">". Or, state the date and original poster yourself, if you wish to quote someone without replying directly to their message. In other words, the scholarly use found typically on other lists applies also to <listname>. Carl Reimann <[log in to unmask]>