Could you satisfy a point of curiosity? I just sent a message to Autocat (my list) and got back the ack: Your message on topic ABC has been successfully distributed to Autocat (1525 subscriptions) I immediately did a review of the list and learned that we currently have 2280 non-concealed subscribers. Where did that 1525 come from? Judith Hopkins, Listowner of [log in to unmask] Internet: [log in to unmask] Bitnet: ulcjh@ubvm