Why was the original (not the replys) to this posted here? Did we not all agree, at Jim Conklin's request, to do all our spitting on the cren-list list? I prefer to respond there--where Marco can make a little boo-boo and accidentally delete all the F's from our responses. Anybody else want to move this to there? LISTSERV is not just for us BITNETers. Let's spit at Jim--F's allowed--nah, make that deserved-- on CREN turf. Folks who are not CREN members are bound to think all we CREM members do is make rude remarks to each other. Frankly, O rather enjoy that privilege of CREN membership. But I don't want to do it here anymore.