I'ld appreciate a response from listowners who work from UNIX platorms and whose lists meet the following parameters. To avoid confusion, the address used for all settings will be: owner_editor@nodeA 1) Send= Editor 2) Editor= owner_editor@nodeA or Editor= owner_editor@nodeA,(listname) 3) Owner= owner_editor@nodeA 4) the owner/editor is subscribed to the list with the address owner_editor@nodeA, Mail= Yes Repro= Yes or Mail= Yes Ack= Yes (though the former setting would be preferable) 4) as editor, mail submitted for approval is sent back to the list using the Elm "bounce" function Given these parameters, here are the questions: Do you get, as a subscriber, a copy of the message when it is distributed by the list (or an Ack if that's how you have it set)? If not, do you get *anything* indicating the message was distributed? Have you ever initiated potential loops by using either the Elm "bounce" function or the "forward" function? Which version of Elm are you using? I hope I've covered everything so I won't be tempted to bother you with this again. Douglas Douglas Winship Austin, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner P.S. Thanks to everyone who has already written to me on this and to Eric for his help. dw