>I use Subscription=Open,Confirm on my public lists. It saves me trouble. If you do, I recommend adding the following list keyword: * Confirm-Delay= 71 h This might avoid useless time-outs when the user sends the SUB on a Friday afternoon, and doesn't see the response until Monday a.m. or his/her host site was "down." It's also one hr less than a typical 3-day SMTP timeout (but does THAT really matter? <rhetorically asked>). -- co-owner INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L [log in to unmask] "Are you downsizing or dumbsizing?" +1 814 863 1843 31 Shields Bldg. -- Penn State Univ -- University Park, PA 16802-1202 USA