Concerning the recent debate in LSTOWN-L on list piracy: I do not know whether I may call "pirates" the GreenDisk Journal. However, I find deplorable that they request information for free -taking advantage from the good will within Internet and the research/academic comunity- and sell it afterwards. I've got at gut feeling I have to inform other listowners on this: I protested to GreenDisk and their reply is enclosed below. What other reply may be expected from such mercenaries ? A VERONICA search on GreenDisk may answer most questions. And I say: As long as they do not freely release in INTERNET the information they get *for free* no cooperation from the FISH-ECOLOGY management will be possible. Regards, Aldo-Pier Solari (Listowner FISH-ECOLOGY, FISH-JUNIOR). ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 08:17:04 -0700 From: The GreenDisk Journal <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Your recent message > As a matter of fact I do find _deplorable_ your policy of > requesting via e-mail free information which you, afterwards, > will take a fee for. Mr. Solari, Your unsolicited stab is not only unfair, unappreciated and out of line, but your perception of our project is way off the mark. Thousands of environmental researchers and projects around the world send us information about their work, publications, etc., that we then consolidate in a form which allows our subscribers to find out about it as they would not have before. This is done at no additional use of financial or natural resources on the part of the submitors. > I am sure that your Greendisk will absolutely not get into > research networks. The GreenDisk is presently used on research networks of NGOs, government offices, libraries, universities., etc. all over the world on each continent. Before sending such a venomous note you could have the courtesy to contact us for more information to better ascertain the goals and nature of this project. You then would have discovered that we are applying to the U.S. government for non-profit, tax exempt status, that we are sincere in our goal of working toward a better environment, and of letting people who might not otherwise find them discover worthwhile projects throughout the world such as your FISH-JUNIOR list. William Sugg, Editor. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> The GreenDisk Paperless Environmental Journal <> <> PO Box 32224, Washington, DC 20007 <> <> EcoNet <greendisk> Internet <[log in to unmask]> <> <> Phone: 1-800-484-7616-DISK <> <> DC Metro or International +1-703-788-9562 <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> --------------------------------------------------------------- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Aldo-Pier Solari [MSc., PhD-cand., Lunds Univ.-Sweden-] at Fisheries Res. Group, Univ. of Las Palmas. Box 550, 35018 Las Palmas - Canary Islands (Spain). em <[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]><[log in to unmask]> fax<34\28\45 29 22> Remote list owner: FISH-ECOLOGY and FISH-JUNIOR at SEARN.SUNET.SE Requests/administrativia to: <[log in to unmask]> Gateway if e-mail bounces: <[log in to unmask]> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*