No, I don't think our subscribers are paranoid, nor has the list changed to one about perversity (you might get some argument about that when cataloging rules are considered). If there is any noticeable paranoia or other mental illnesss asssociated with AUTOCAT it is undoubtedly mine. The problem is we had an ad posted to the list, despite trying to keep such out. I thought it got through via forgery of some part of the header. Our LISTSERV administrator, at my request, searched the pertinent logs and his response supports my original suspicion: it was a well done forgery. My questions to LSTOWN-L in relation to this have not had as their goal keeping the list a secret, to the extent possible. I know how to do that. Nor is the intent to deny information as to the nature of the list. We are proud of the list and would like everyone who has any interest (other than commercial exploitation) to subscribe. My items to this list on the matter the past few days have been in the nature of groping for good ways to restrict, at least partially, the information a forger needs to work with, while still keeping the list open for the free discussion it has always enjoyed. I realise I'm trying to reconcile features that aren't going to mesh properly, but I can't help but ask about various list functions if I am not sure how they relate to one another, exactly what a particular keyword defines, etc. So I'm frequently a pest and no doubt often appear a fool. I couldn't care less what you think of me. All I care about is stimulating response that will give me advice, ideas, anything at all that will help me try to keep what has been a very fine list for many years the list our subscribers expect it to be. Douglas Douglas Winship Austin, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner On Tue, 13 Sep 1994, Dan Lester wrote: > Douglas, I'm confused. Are you just using AUTOCAT as an example? > > I can see why one might want it to be REALLY private if it were > the CHILMOLE list for child molesters or something, but even > gay-libn and bisexu-l aren't totally private. Are the catalogers > of the library world getting so private and paranoid that they > don't even want anyone to know that they are on the list, or what > the list is about? o-) > > Or has AUTOCAT just kept the old title and changed to KINKYLIB since > I was last on it? > > cyclops, who really does NOT understand why anyone wouldn't want folks > to know what a NON-PRIVATE list is even about > > Dan Lester Internet: [log in to unmask] > Network Information Coordinator WWW: http://cyclops.idbsu.edu > Boise State University Library > Boise, Idaho 83725 In the kingdom of the blind, the > 208-385-1235 one-eyed man is king. Erasmus. 1523 >