I like auto-delete and wouldn't think of turning it off. I own 8 lists, several of them very busy, and several of them with lots of folks from funky sites. I just wish more sites ran mailers that would return messages that would allow LISTSERV to autodelete. However, you should understand I'm a crusty old hardass, too. I delete folks with full mailboxes every day. I am NOT going to sit and wait for your full mailbox to bounce stuff for a week before I zap you. I delete 'no such account' stuff immediately. I delete 'invalid domain name' and similar immediately. Yes, name servers and such can be down. But.... that is NOT MY PROBLEM....my problem is to deal with several hundred bounces a day even with autodelete turned on and a quick trigger finger. I came back from a two week vacation and found over 7000 bounces in my mailbox, to put it in perspective. Sure, some folks get deleted 'too quickly', but that is also NOT MY PROBLEM. I tell folks on my lists about six times a year that the ONLY reason I EVER delete anyone is due to mailbounces of one sort or another. Of course I STILL get a message a day from some bozo who says "what did I do wrong that you deleted me, not send enough messages?" And so it goes.... cheers cyclops Dan Lester Internet: [log in to unmask] Network Information Coordinator WWW: http://cyclops.idbsu.edu Boise State University Library Boise, Idaho 83725 In the kingdom of the blind, the 208-385-1235 one-eyed man is king. Erasmus. 1523