On Mon, 3 Oct 1994 16:15:29 -0400 you said: >A quote of P.T. Barnum's comes to mind :-) > >>USAGREENCARD via [log in to unmask] >> >> The law office of Mark Carmel, Attorney at Law, is now hosting a new >> mailing list on the topic of U.S.A. Immigration Law. Since I'm the NEW-LIST editor I seem to be the object of this statement. I don't take the responsibilities lightly but I have always stated that I will try very hard not to censor the announcement of new lists because of their content. (Well, I did recently reject one called Sh** List but I am not sure that was legitimate anyway - it came from usenet news which is seldom legitimate! ;-). Anyway, some folks seem to associate the USAGREENCARD list with the spamming of Canter & Siegel on the Green Card lottery last spring. I found only two similarities: The content of the list was similar to the SOLICITATION of Canter & Siegel. Also, Mark had sent the announcement to 40-50 news groups (according to other sources) before he realized that was a waste of time and he should send it to NEW-LIST instead. He claimed to have only had a computer for three weeks and admitted his error. Actually, one person thought this was Canter because Carmel sounded similar... But Mark is in New York and Canter & Siegel in the SouthWest US. Now, for all I know this could be an attempt to solicit business. But it could also be exactly what it says - a list to discuss immigration law. Or it might be something in between - like the "Ask a Professional" pages in the newspaper which are Q&A's on various topics answered by professionals such as medical doctors, optometrists, etc. They answer the questions but the affiliation is clearly displayed. I think we have to be very careful not to fall into the trap of guilt by association (ie. all immigration lawyers or lawyers must be crooks). After all, we use computer networks so we must all be malevolent hackers like Robert Morris Jr. (sp?) right? ;-) Marty NEW-LIST Editor/Owner ----------- Marty Hoag [log in to unmask] US Mail: NDSU ITS ND Higher Education Computer Network IACC Room 206 Phone: (701)-231-8639 Fax: (701)-231-8541 PO Box 5164 Bitnet: nu021172@NDSUVM1 (note 0=zero) Fargo, ND 58105 On Oct. 1, 1994 our campus phone prefix changed to 231.